"You have ruined cheeseburger for me"

After the April 2023 Texas Barnfire incident, I asked people about it, as a starting point to discuss about animal use.

Since it was not my regular pitch, I was fumbling at many places, which isn't the worst part of it. I should have pushed people more, into elucidating their position even on pro-AL points, to really ensure we are on the same page.

This is from April (I have quite some old recordings, so there will be many points I need to account for and improve), and one thing for sure is, I was too eager to answer rather than listen, or even hold people accountable for their actions. I also should have pushed more about what they understood about veganism, rather than just staying mum about it. Any ways, here it is.